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  1. #11
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    United Kingdom


    One can only try

    If I come across a relevant note on the legislation I'll share it with you. In the meantime, RLA first paragraph on this page is fairly clear:
    ".. When is an EPC needed?
    Where a dwelling is being let an Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) will be required..."

  2. #12


    Again thanks all for your input.

    This article from the RLA doesn't help because it says "Where a dwelling is being let an Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) will be required."

    Is the assumption here that an EPC is required at all times whilst being let? or is this just a bad summary of the legislation?

    The article goes on to say "In addition, further changes took effect as from 1st October 2015 for new tenancies starting on or after that date. Landlords will now have to provide the EPC to tenants before they can rely on a section 21 notice. Further information on this is available in our Section 21 FAQ."

    The tenants have had a fixed term tenancy agreement since May 2015. Again my intention was to let it turn into a periodic when it expires in May 2017.

    My only concern is does a periodic tenancy end up being classified a as a monthly agreement?

    jjlandlords suggestion is the answer I am looking for. What would be ideal is to be able to verify it with the legislation which can cause brain damage trying to decipher.

  3. #13
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    NW Cumbria (Lake District)


    I would take "Where a dwelling is let..." and "When a dwelling is let..." to mean when it's first let.

    If it said "While a dwelling is let...." that would mean the whole time it is let.

    Of course I could be wrong.

  4. #14
    Join Date
    Jun 2009


    When it comes to selling a property you need an EPC but that EPC never needs renewal until the property is sold again.
    Therefore I won't be chasing a new EPC for let house until I need a new tenant, assuming a rolling tenancy.

    If however the tenant demands a new lease every 6/12 months then I suppose a valid EPC will be needed on each lease renewal.

  5. #15
    Join Date
    Oct 2009


    I had another thought about this yesterday:

    Like the o/p my epc will likely expire during the forthcoming periodic tenancy. What is to stop one getting a new EPC, but only giving your tenant your old one? Then any daft recommendations on the new one will not see light of day until a section 21 notice is needed.

  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by eco-energi View Post

    The best way to go about this would be to email to the contact given in the legislation and ask them. (last paragraph) http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/809/note/made
    I'd really prefer it if you didn't contact them to be honest. the only thing that could come from it is an amendment to the legislation that would require you to renew it.
    as it stand we have enough expenses with property maintence than to go looking for more expenses.

    Personally I wouldn't renew it unless I needed to. that being if I need to serve a notice. and even then I would argue that it was provided at the start of the tenancy.

    Most people don't even look at an EPC. I personally never have done, even when buying property.
    EPC= Extra piece of Crop - you know what I mean.

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