What date did this tenancy start?

[worzelgummage]

Hi,

I have a tenancy that states (under the main terms of the tenancy:

The Term of the Tenancy Twelve months
From 20 July 2012 to 19 July 2013

Then on page 16 I have:

"INDIVIDUALLY NEGOTIATED CLAUSES
In addition to or instead of the standard clauses listed above, the following have been individually
negotiated between the Landlord and the Tenant as part of this Tenancy Agreement.
· The Landlord may serve the Tenant two months written notice to terminate the Tenancy any
time before the end of the original fixed Term but not to expire before six months.
· The Tenant may serve the Landlord one month’s written notice to terminate the Tenancy any
time before the end of the original fixed Term but not to expire before six months"

Is this valid and how does it operate in practice?

[theartfullodger]

Somewhat unclear over "before six months" (rather than six months from start of fixed term...)...and not sure of the implication of "instead of the standard clauses"..and "two months written notice.."(rather than at least 2 months...) kinda implies must be 2 months, not 2 months 3 days... I guess it would come down to will (I assume you are LL wanting T out..) T either accepting notice & going {many do..} or if he refuses to go, you take him to court, what will Judge decide: We don't know what Judge will decide,

I think in practice I'd issue a notice to expire exactly 2 months from hand-delivered service (get witness to stuffing through door) and expiring at least 6 months after start of fixed term..

But I'm entirely legally unqualified...

Who drafted it??

[westminster]

You can serve notice to end the fixed term tenancy under the break clause at any time but it must be in writing, it must give at least two months (if you're the LL) or at least one month (if you're the T), and it cannot expire before 20th January 2013.

[worzelgummage]

Thanks for your help.

IN this instant I'm the T and just checking out my options and checking what the LL can do.

[worzelgummage]

What date did this tenancy start? and when will it end?

The contract says:

The Term of the Tenancy Twelve months
From 20 July 2012 to 19 July 2013

However the contract was signed and keys handed over on 24th July 2012

The the LL's agent refused to amend the dates when asked as "the offer and agreement had been for the 20th" (but the agent didn't send out a copy of the contract until the 19th and by then it was too late to arrange to go to the office and pick up the keys the next day).

[Moderator2]

Two related threads have been merged.

[westminster]

What date did this tenancy start? and when will it end?

The contract says:

The Term of the Tenancy Twelve months
From 20 July 2012 to 19 July 2013

The contractual fixed term starts and ends on these dates.

However the contract was signed and keys handed over on 24th July 2012

The tenancy began on 24th July, as a short term tenancy takes effect in possession, i.e. when the T moves in.