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  1. #11
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    I'm sure the supplier themselves will be able to tell you where the meters are situated; the meter number will appear on the bill somewhere so you can check the right meter.

    If not try MPAS on 0845 603 0618, they may be able to help, they are the electricity worlds version of Transco

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    I haven't got my gas regs to hand, but I think it is regulation 9. It is mainly talking about new installations but it does include exisiting supply's. As a tenant you should either have direct access to the main primary meter emergency control valve at the point of entry into the property, i.e you have immediate access to isolate the gas in the event of an emergency and if the landlord wishes to keep the room locked where the main services are, each flat should have an secondary emergency control valve at the point of entry in each flat..................its either or, and that is the basis of the regulations, but I will check for definate sometime over the weekend when I have time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red40 View Post
    I haven't got my gas regs to hand, but I think it is regulation 9. It is mainly talking about new installations but it does include exisiting supply's. As a tenant you should either have direct access to the main primary meter emergency control valve at the point of entry into the property, i.e you have immediate access to isolate the gas in the event of an emergency and if the landlord wishes to keep the room locked where the main services are, each flat should have an secondary emergency control valve at the point of entry in each flat..................its either or, and that is the basis of the regulations, but I will check for definate sometime over the weekend when I have time.
    Having had the issue for a long time now of a resident's management company who has denied me access to my gas meter and electricity meter and my primary gas isolation handle for the last 10+ years I am surprised that nobody who frequents this forum seems to actually be properly familiar with the law in this area.

    Specifically

    The Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1994 and the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998

    See See http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/13/made and http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...51/part/C/made

    Section 13 of these regulations has this to say:-

    Meter housings13.—

    (3) No person shall install a meter in a meter box provided with a lock, unless the consumer has been provided with a suitably labelled key to that lock.

    (4) No person shall install a meter within a meter compound which is capable of being secured unless the consumer has been provided with a suitably labelled key for that compound.
    For those living in flats converted somewhat earlier than this then the first edition of these safety regulations implemented in 1984 as the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1984 may still give you the right to access as follows:-

    Meter Boxes

    12. (3) No person shall install a meter in a meter box provided with a lock, unless the consumer has been provided with a key to the lock clearly labelled "Gas Meter Box" in black capital leters on a yellow ground.
    See http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...9841358_en.pdf

    All of this was pointed out to me by the people at the Gas Safe Register Helpline on 0800 408 5577. They will provide explanations on al technical aspects of gas safety covered by the Gas Industry Unsafe Situations Procedure - Edition 6 as found at http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/pdf...n%20V1%201.pdf

    I am told by the Gas Safe Register people that if your landlord will not provide you with a key granting you 24/7 access to your gas meter and gas isolation handle that this matter can be reported to the Health and Safety Executive. However the danger is that the HSE is likely to condemn the continued use of your gas supply until the danger of not being able to access and control your own regulator has been eliminated.

    Of course in this case the danger ought to be able to be eliminated by the supply of a key but were you to meet a very obstinate landlord then you might end up having to physically relocate the meter in to your flat and who picks up the cost on that could depend on what it says in your lease about such responsibilities. So I would be careful about running off to the HSE but use the existence of these reglations to pressurise your landlord/resident's management company to give you access to the box or compound (aka room) in which the meter is located.

    For those with flats converted before 1984 the fact that the current regulations can be complied with by the simple act of providing a key still lets you put strong moral pressure on your landlord to give you a key on the basis that if a gas accident happens that could have been stopped if you have been able to access your own gas meter isolation handle then the landlord may be considered to be negligent.

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