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    You won't find a free download of BS5839 but most...

    You won't find a free download of BS5839 but most libraries have access to the British Standards but I still don't think reading the BS will help you. If you are installing a mixed system as I have...
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    Hi there, A fire alarm just in the common...

    Hi there,

    A fire alarm just in the common areas would be pointless as you need to warn and evacuate everyone in the block. The sound level just in the common areas would not be enough to warn...
  3. Just getting back to you, the Flats Regs you...

    Just getting back to you, the Flats Regs you quoted is for the Isle of Man.
  4. Hi, not sure the Regs you have quoted are the...

    Hi, not sure the Regs you have quoted are the dominant legislation here and if it has been revoked when the Fire Safety Order came in 1st October 2006 but I will try to find out for you.

    Under the...
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    I think you need to be careful here that you...

    I think you need to be careful here that you install the right system. It would need to conform to BS 5839 Part 1 for the common areas (smoke detection) that extends to one heat detector in each...
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    No worries just trying to give you the best...

    No worries just trying to give you the best advice.

    radio linked alarms would be fine but you'll find they can be more expensive than wired systems.
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    If you don't want to comply with current fire...

    If you don't want to comply with current fire safety law or try to bend it that is the management's decision but you pay the potential consequences if there is a fire.

    There have been some...
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    Hi there, the fire risk assessment is a legal...

    Hi there, the fire risk assessment is a legal requirement and to cover yourself I would opt for a competent fire safety professional, expect to pay around £200-300 for a professional accredited FRA....
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    Sounds like the fire service have washed their...

    Sounds like the fire service have washed their hands of it to me and passed it to housing? Trust me if there are fire safety provisions that are common to one or more flats that are there for the...
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    You are very welcome, glad it helped. :(nod):

    You are very welcome, glad it helped. :(nod):
  11. See my reply under the "smoke and heat alarm...

    See my reply under the "smoke and heat alarm question" same thought process really or in box me and we can discuss further.


    Darren :-)
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    See here for the LACoRS amendment, see point 8...

    See here for the LACoRS amendment, see point 8 single family dwellings

    ...
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    This is why I don't like LACoRS, its a poor fire...

    This is why I don't like LACoRS, its a poor fire safety guide really in my view and housing officers try to enforce guidance!

    Are you aware that LACoRS was amended in 2009 to include the specific...
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    Hi Caroline, From the description the fire...

    Hi Caroline,

    From the description the fire alarm sounds correct for a conversion with a heat detector just inside each flat (whether lobbies or not really). The heat detector is there to protect...
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    Short answer - no :-)

    Short answer - no :-)
  16. Sticky: I only have 2 points really: 1. All flats...

    I only have 2 points really:

    1. All flats (dwellings) should have at least one smoke detector fitted, although not enforceable under the Fire Safety Order, the codes of practice would suggest that...
  17. Not sure why he is asking for the VP? Have you...

    Not sure why he is asking for the VP? Have you asked him why this is required?
  18. London Fire Brigade Flats Fire Safety Drive

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    London Fire Brigade (LFB) has launched an initiative to try to combat the lack of fire safety procedures in houses of multiple occupancy.

    A survey conducted by the brigade...
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    Tom, I think you are playing a dangerous game...

    Tom, I think you are playing a dangerous game with that sort of thought process. Landlords have had heavy fines and gone to prison for breaches of the Fire Safety Order.

    I think the fee quoted of...
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    The mirror wouldn't overly concern me? Zero...

    The mirror wouldn't overly concern me? Zero tolerance can be a pain if you go down the no door mats and small potted plants route. A common sense approach is best.

    Not sure what you mean about the...
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    Sorry should of added under fire safety law!

    Sorry should of added under fire safety law!
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    Hi Tom, Your starting point should be the...

    Hi Tom,


    Your starting point should be the fire risk assessment and then take it from there as this if done properly will address all the issues.
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    PS has an assessment been done as this should...

    PS has an assessment been done as this should have sorted all this out for you!?
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    Difficult to advise now without seeing the...

    Difficult to advise now without seeing the building now we have more details. The common fire alarm confuses matters as you can't have a stay put policy and a general alarm that warns everyone in the...
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    Do the flats open directly on to the staircase...

    Do the flats open directly on to the staircase enclosure? If so are there any openable windows at all floor levels in the stair?

    Or do the flats open on to a lobby and is the lobby ventilated by...
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