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    scotcruz, I think we need to be careful as to...

    scotcruz,

    I think we need to be careful as to what is the minimum standard i.e. one battery smoke alarm and was is the most suitable. Sometimes you won't find a definitive answer but on what you...
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    Agreed; the Fire Safety Order covers any common...

    Agreed; the Fire Safety Order covers any common parts and includes the flats doors but not inside the flats (Housing Act applies) However a FRA should at least consider the internal flats including...
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    This may be of interest? ...

    This may be of interest?


    http://www.fia.uk.com/news/call-for-all-landlords-to-install-smoke-alarms.html
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    The fire service is the area will provide a free...

    The fire service is the area will provide a free home fire risk assessment and in most cases fit free 10 year battery smoke alarms, I would advise the tenant makes contact.
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    We could discuss on here who has the...

    We could discuss on here who has the responsibility to install smoke alarms and I am sure those that are the experts in this field will.
    Being an ex fire safety officer with over 25 years...
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    Yes the purpose built flats guide can be used on...

    Yes the purpose built flats guide can be used on converted flats where the conversion has complied with building regs.

    3. Scope of this guidance
    3.1 This guide is intended for buildings which...
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    Ok hadn't seen that in the OP, depends on date of...

    Ok hadn't seen that in the OP, depends on date of conversion then? I am guessing before 1991 or you would have expected FD30s doors with self-closers?
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    A few points for you all on this one: Firstly...

    A few points for you all on this one:

    Firstly the fire safety order applies to all non domestic type premises (i.e. other than single private dwellings) you won't find differing recommendations...
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    Are the doors original 30min doors that are in...

    Are the doors original 30min doors that are in good condition and fit well in the frame with a 25mm rebate? If so I would just go for the self closer as the doors can sometimes fit worse than they...
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    Not sure here about some of the legal aspects...

    Not sure here about some of the legal aspects made above?

    However from a pure fire safety perspective you need to look at the current building regs Approved Document B (Fire Safety)

    An escape...
  11. Building regs Approved Document B

    Building regs Approved Document B
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    Hard wired (BS 5839 part 6) smoke detectors top...

    Hard wired (BS 5839 part 6) smoke detectors top and bottom of the stairs interlinked should be minimum really. This has been in under building regs for new builds since about 1991.
  13. mk1fan, A 30 min door in a 60 min compartment...

    mk1fan,

    A 30 min door in a 60 min compartment is acceptable.
  14. Hi, not sure why the fire risk assessment company...

    Hi, not sure why the fire risk assessment company would say you don't have any legal obligations? If you have any element of "control" over the common areas then you would have a legal obligation to...
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    Smoke detector on each preferably linked to each...

    Smoke detector on each preferably linked to each other.
  16. Is this the council's own guide or are they using...

    Is this the council's own guide or are they using LACoRS?
  17. Have a look here, Gov web site so no sales pitch...

    Have a look here, Gov web site so no sales pitch

    https://www.gov.uk/workplace-fire-safety-your-responsibilities/fire-risk-assessments
  18. A FRA is required in all non domestic premises,...

    A FRA is required in all non domestic premises, it is the recording of the significant findings that is not required if you have less than 5 employees in TOTAL. So if a shop owner has 6 shops with 1...
  19. Hi, yes a FRA is still legally required but you...

    Hi, yes a FRA is still legally required but you won't have to record the significant findings. It can be done by you, many simple templates can be found online.

    It may be a case of just recording...
  20. Hi, yes a FRA is still legally required but you...

    Hi, yes a FRA is still legally required but you won't have to record the significant findings. It can be done by you, many simple templates can be found online.

    It may be a case of just recording...
  21. I am not sure on the legalities re letting before...

    I am not sure on the legalities re letting before an FRA is done, but I have had experience of Landlords, letting agents etc contacting us to ensure an FRA is completed before the property is bought...
  22. The common alarm (BS5839 PART 1) is the provision...

    The common alarm (BS5839 PART 1) is the provision of smoke detection in the common area linked to a heat detector in each flat. A separate system (BS5839 PART 6) is then installed within each flat...
  23. Article 13 of the fire safety order applies to...

    Article 13 of the fire safety order applies to the whole property, as an adequate means of warning of fire is required.

    this can be enforced to all occupants.

    Fire-fighting and fire detection...
  24. Hi Claire As there is a common area, the fire...

    Hi Claire

    As there is a common area, the fire safety order applies to the small common area and would include the flat doors BUT not the flats themselves (Housing Act applies). I don't think the...
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    Sorry joining this one a bit late. what you...

    Sorry joining this one a bit late.

    what you call the building and what guide you use can be a bit irrelevant sometimes. The key here is if the fire compartmentation can not be relied upon due to...
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