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			<title>Landlord and Letting Show Reebok Stadium 26/27th June</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:26:47 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>If you are attending the Landlord and Letting show why not come and see us on *stand 8* and say hi, myself and the team will be on hand to discuss any fire safety questions you may have. It would be good to meet some of the fire safety posters in person! Hope to see you there! 
 
Darren 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>If you are attending the Landlord and Letting show why not come and see us on <b>stand 8</b> and say hi, myself and the team will be on hand to discuss any fire safety questions you may have. It would be good to meet some of the fire safety posters in person! Hope to see you there!<br />
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Darren<br />
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<b>Total Fire Services Ltd</b></div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Boiler at new BTL property doesn't have building regulations?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:50:09 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I am just in the process of purchasing a BTL property, however my Solicitor has just received information that the boiler wasn't installed with building regulations, but they will provide indemnity insurance which will only cover me for enforcement action by the local council)  
 
Would this effect...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am just in the process of purchasing a BTL property, however my Solicitor has just received information that the boiler wasn't installed with building regulations, but they will provide indemnity insurance which will only cover me for enforcement action by the local council) <br />
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Would this effect me renting the property?</div>

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			<title>Fire Safety</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:38:01 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>A guide on fire safety for housing can be found here: http://www.lacors.gov.uk/lacors/upload/19175.pdf</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>A guide on fire safety for housing can be found here: <a href="http://www.lacors.gov.uk/lacors/upload/19175.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.lacors.gov.uk/lacors/upload/19175.pdf</a></div>

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			<title>Firesafety and tables</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:32:51 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello Everyone, 
 
Sorry if this question has been answered before. 
 
Do the fire-safety regulations only cover upholstered furniture?  
http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/furniture.htm 
 
If I provided a dinning table and chairs to my tenants (made from exclusively wood) would I need them tested and...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello Everyone,<br />
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Sorry if this question has been answered before.<br />
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Do the fire-safety regulations only cover upholstered furniture? <br />
http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/furniture.htm<br />
<br />
If I provided a dinning table and chairs to my tenants (made from exclusively wood) would I need them tested and with a sticker?<br />
<br />
Kind Regards<br />
<br />
John</div>

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			<title>PAT testing frequency</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2013 13:27:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello 
Can you confirm how often I need PAT testing for my privately let one bed flat?  I let it unfurnished so there is only a washer/dryer and fridge/freezer to be tested.  It was last done in June 2011.  I've a new tenant moving in soon.  Is it annually or everytime a new tenant moves in?...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello<br />
Can you confirm how often I need PAT testing for my privately let one bed flat?  I let it unfurnished so there is only a washer/dryer and fridge/freezer to be tested.  It was last done in June 2011.  I've a new tenant moving in soon.  Is it annually or everytime a new tenant moves in?<br />
Thanks  :(wasntme):</div>

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			<title>Fire escapes into nextdoor flats -- how big an issue?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 20:58:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello 
 
I am some way down the line in buying a maisonette (to let out), which I am keen to go ahead with. However, I have just discovered that there are two rather unusual fire escapes in the flat which lead into the adjoining maisonettes. There is a 3'6" tall door on the landing which bizarrely...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello<br />
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I am some way down the line in buying a maisonette (to let out), which I am keen to go ahead with. However, I have just discovered that there are two rather unusual fire escapes in the flat which lead into the adjoining maisonettes. There is a 3'6&quot; tall door on the landing which bizarrely has a Yale lock on it, and a door on the neighbour's side which also has a Yale lock -- it's like those doubled-up doors between hotel rooms but with the locks reversed (odd to have a fire escape that can lock you out!). I had never heard of this arrangement before but <a href="http://www.local.gov.uk/c/document_library/get_file?uuid=71e152a6-9e0a-4810-aee6-498167664f79&amp;groupId=10171" target="_blank">Local Government Group Guidance</a> says at para 56.27:<br />
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			Escape via .. pass doors between neighbouring flats ... was a commonly accepted alternative escape arrangement under previous benchmark standards and can be found in many existing blocks of flats.
			
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</div>It goes on to say that this type of fire escape is not really considered appropriate these days, but they can be retained as a last resort when there is no other suitable fire escape.<br />
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Obviously there is a privacy / security risk here, as unlikely as it may be the neighbours could enter this property in circumstances other than escaping a fire, and vice versa (possibly not even maliciously -- it could just be their kids messing around or something). My suggestion for a quick and cheap solution would be to fix an alarm system to the door, as that would strongly discourage frivolous or malicious misuse by the neighbours (or by my tenants for that matter!). Does that sound sensible? Would this fire escape arrangement put potential tenants off or significantly worsen the potential re-sale value of the flat? (Although on this point, if I get the doors re-done subtly I doubt tenants or even potential purchasers would even notice until after they'd signed on the dotted line).<br />
<br />
I asked advice on another forum about this but I only got rather shrill responses along the lines &quot;OMG YOU'RE GOING TO GET RAPED&quot;, so I'd welcome some further thoughts on this. <br />
<br />
(Mods - I appreciate that there is a sub-forum devoted to Safety, but as I'm not really asking about the fire safety aspects of this arrangement I thought there would be more interest on this subject in the general forum - hope that's okay.)</div>

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			<title>Can anyone recommend a good fire safety risk assessor in London?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 19:41:03 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello, 
 
I would like to find a fire safety risk assessor for a property in London (SE5) but I have heard some horror stories about landlords being presented with reports which simply list every possible fire safety feature which could be added to the property, without any indication of what would...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello,<br />
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I would like to find a fire safety risk assessor for a property in London (SE5) but I have heard some horror stories about landlords being presented with reports which simply list every possible fire safety feature which could be added to the property, without any indication of what would be proportionate for the risks in question.<br />
<br />
I would just like some sensible written advice, alongside a specific view over whether a particular fire escape in the property is useful and/or necessary. Can anyone make a specific recommendation of a professional fire risk assessor? It would be a great help to me.</div>

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			<dc:creator>JamesHopeful</dc:creator>
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			<title>Part P Notifiable Electrical Work</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 23:42:16 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi 
 
My parents had some electrical work done recently by a non part P certified person including a new fuse box fitted. Does anyone know the procedures for retrospective certification and whether this is likely to be costly? I understand that it is a criminal offence not to have followed the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi<br />
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My parents had some electrical work done recently by a non part P certified person including a new fuse box fitted. Does anyone know the procedures for retrospective certification and whether this is likely to be costly? I understand that it is a criminal offence not to have followed the correct procedures - what is the best way forward?<br />
<br />
Thanks</div>

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			<dc:creator>davidf</dc:creator>
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			<title>Emergency lighting reviews</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 18:57:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello 
Do you know how often emergency lighting has to be checked and recorded by a qualified electrician? I'm the company secretary for the flat owners self managed property company. I check it and log it monthly but am not qualified as an electrician. I'm worried that the fire risk assessment co....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello<br />
Do you know how often emergency lighting has to be checked and recorded by a qualified electrician? I'm the company secretary for the flat owners self managed property company. I check it and log it monthly but am not qualified as an electrician. I'm worried that the fire risk assessment co. we use are ripping us off as they are billing us for faulty bulbs every few months along with a £65 call out fee.<br />
Thanks :(happy):</div>

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			<dc:creator>MissMay</dc:creator>
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			<title>Electrical Installation Condition Report</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 18:49:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Does anyone know the date of the change from Periodic inspection report to Installation condition report, Just been questioned by the council regarding a PIR done in Jul 2012</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Does anyone know the date of the change from Periodic inspection report to Installation condition report, Just been questioned by the council regarding a PIR done in Jul 2012</div>

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			<dc:creator>grouse</dc:creator>
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			<title>Thermostatic Mixing Valves</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 08:33:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi there  
We have recently bought a converted mill, all works are complete however the plumber working at the Mill has asked whether we want Thermostatic Mixing Valves fitting in relation to the sinks and baths 
 
Is this a requirement of the HHSRS? Or a nice to have? 
 
Many thanks 
Claire</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi there <br />
We have recently bought a converted mill, all works are complete however the plumber working at the Mill has asked whether we want Thermostatic Mixing Valves fitting in relation to the sinks and baths<br />
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Is this a requirement of the HHSRS? Or a nice to have?<br />
<br />
Many thanks<br />
Claire</div>

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			<title>BG contract or self insure</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 17:35:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I would be interested on what other landlords with portfolios do. some of my properties with gas combi are insured on BG home care package min fee & 50 callout, newer boilers I self insure then get my gas man to fix. The latter is fine unless major repairs are needed. 
 
Would I be better biting...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I would be interested on what other landlords with portfolios do. some of my properties with gas combi are insured on BG home care package min fee &amp; 50 callout, newer boilers I self insure then get my gas man to fix. The latter is fine unless major repairs are needed.<br />
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Would I be better biting the bullet and <br />
putting all my properties with BG<br />
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Advantages with BG are certainty and they can normally get to my properties next morning, which is difficult for my gas man if he is in middle of big job.<br />
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Thoughts !</div>

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