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POLO
22-02-2007, 14:10 PM
Has Anyone Else Had A Pet Without Permission ?or Is Keeping A Pet Secret?

jinny
22-02-2007, 14:23 PM
When i filled in the application form for this house, there was no mention of pets not being allowed.

I went to the agency's office to sign the tenancy agreement, and it did mention in that, about having no pets unless the LL agreed, i mentioned this to the girl at the agency, and she said it was just to cover the LL, i explained my dog is 15, he's clean, and no trouble, in fact, he doesn't bark very often tbh, she told me it's ok, as long as he's not destructive...well he's not, cos he's lost a few teeth over the years.
I think it depends on the LL himself really.

Now the street where i came from, a girl down the road from me, looked after her neighbours parrott one year when she went away, her LL came round noticed the birdcage, and ripped into my mate, by saying she should have informed him about the bird, but as my mate said, she was only looking after it for the other neighbour, he backed off after that.

POLO
22-02-2007, 14:26 PM
Ok thank you ,i think i'll just keep quiet because he's mature well behaved and very clean they wouldnt even know,and he doesnt even bark only if someone is outside causing nuisance ,he'll protect there property more than anything.thank you.

jinny
22-02-2007, 15:16 PM
This is what i can't understand sometimes, a dog does give you and the property more protection i think, and i know if i were a LL, i would be happy for someone to have a dog in the house, as long as it was clean etc.

I know one house i went for, the agency wanted an extra £50-00 deposit for the dog, which sounds daft, but we couldn't afford that extra amount at the time.

DianeB
22-02-2007, 15:46 PM
I have just been asked by my letting agency if they mind my prospective new tenants having a dog. My house is a family sized house with large garden and my wish is to have a family living in it and in my opinion, pets come with families. Therefore, my reply was that so long as they understand that any specialised cleaning or fumigation needed after they leave would come out of their deposit, I would be more than happy for them to have a dog.

My opinion only.:)

POLO
22-02-2007, 15:50 PM
I Wish They All Thought Like You.:d

Harry
22-02-2007, 15:55 PM
Last year, I had the job of re-cleaning a flat in which a dog had been kept.
It was a very friendly, well-behaved, quiet dog that the owner kept well-groomed.
The flat was spick and span for the next tenant who, however, developed red welts on her arms.
We needed specialist cleaning to get rid of the fleas, or more to the point, their eggs.
Never again, if I can help it.

Paragon
22-02-2007, 17:08 PM
Last year, I had the job of re-cleaning a flat in which a dog had been kept.
It was a very friendly, well-behaved, quiet dog that the owner kept well-groomed.
The flat was spick and span for the next tenant who, however, developed red welts on her arms.
We needed specialist cleaning to get rid of the fleas, or more to the point, their eggs.
Never again, if I can help it.

That is exactly why this lawyer written phrase "No pets allowed, without the written permission of the landlord, which can not be unreasonably withheld." is total nonsense and some lawyer trying to impress with his verbiage.

Stel
22-02-2007, 17:54 PM
My property is leasehold and one of the conditions in the lease forbids pets. If one of my tenants was to secretly keep a dog then I would be breaking the conditions of that lease unwittingly. If you want to keep a dog then you should be honest and say so.
I am a dog lover myself but not all properties are suitable for dogs Im sure responsible pet owners accept that. However there are a lot of people out there that may not fall into the category of responsible.

nick..
22-02-2007, 18:10 PM
Has Anyone Else Had A Pet Without Permission ?or Is Keeping A Pet Secret?

Just go for it, don't let anyone tell you that you can't have a pet

If the landlord finds out and doesn't like it, sod them and move on, plenty of rental properties on the market, their loss

Don't let some shiny suited 18y.o. BTL landlord tell you how to live your life, you're not here long enough

DianeB
22-02-2007, 20:20 PM
Just go for it, don't let anyone tell you that you can't have a pet

If the landlord finds out and doesn't like it, sod them and move on, plenty of rental properties on the market, their loss

Don't let some shiny suited 18y.o. BTL landlord tell you how to live your life, you're not here long enough


Nick, whilst I mentioned that I would be happy to take on a tenant with a pet, I would not appreciate somebody showing that sort of attitude.

I have invested a lot of money in my property, hopefully to provide a lovely home for people and a pension for me in years to come. I would not like a tenant to show the lack of respect for it that you suggest:)

DianeB
22-02-2007, 21:07 PM
PS - wish I was 18!;)

nick..
22-02-2007, 21:27 PM
Nick, whilst I mentioned that I would be happy to take on a tenant with a pet, I would not appreciate somebody showing that sort of attitude.

I have invested a lot of money in my property, hopefully to provide a lovely home for people and a pension for me in years to come. I would not like a tenant to show the lack of respect for it that you suggest:)

Fair enough, but landlords all too quickly forget that what they are providing is a home for someone, who's probably been priced out of the market due to the snapping up of FTB properties by those more fortunate. Its not an extension of your own home, with me merely a lodger

I'm not suggesting its acceptable for someone to show a lack of respect, what I'm saying is you have your deposit for damages, and you have chosen to get into this market, it wasn't forced upon you, you should not be (but are able) to have control over how someone chooses to live their life. You own the property, are benefitting from capital gains and rental income, assuming you are not left out of pocket by damages, then what happens between the tenant entering and leaving is really none of your business

I know Lawrence Llwellyn Bowen has probably convinced you to deck your whole place out in designer gear, but as soon as you let it, it becomes someone elses home, and I emphatically disagree with any kind of regulation that encroaches on how they want to live their lives, assuming it is left in the condition they found it in. I've always rented unfurnished, as I have no intention to live in someone else idea of a quaint home

I understand Gordo's raided your pension fund, but its now down to my generation to pay for your retirement, so give us a bit of slack if we happen to enjoy the pleasure a pet can bring to our lives

-edit- apologies for the confrontational nature of my posting here, but as you can understand I'm quite passionate about this. I've never caused a problem for a landlord, always paid on time, and never had to have a deposit deducted for anything other than "curtain cleaning", but that doesn't stop me strongly believing we should be free to live as we choose.


I think my post needs more smilies

DianeB
22-02-2007, 22:27 PM
Fair enough, but landlords all too quickly forget that what they are providing is a home for someone, who's probably been priced out of the market due to the snapping up of FTB properties by those more fortunate. Its not an extension of your own home, with me merely a lodger

I'm not suggesting its acceptable for someone to show a lack of respect, what I'm saying is you have your deposit for damages, and you have chosen to get into this market, it wasn't forced upon you, you should not be (but are able) to have control over how someone chooses to live their life. You own the property, are benefitting from capital gains and rental income, assuming you are not left out of pocket by damages, then what happens between the tenant entering and leaving is really none of your business

I know Lawrence Llwellyn Bowen has probably convinced you to deck your whole place out in designer gear, but as soon as you let it, it becomes someone elses home, and I emphatically disagree with any kind of regulation that encroaches on how they want to live their lives, assuming it is left in the condition they found it in. I've always rented unfurnished, as I have no intention to live in someone else idea of a quaint home

I understand Gordo's raided your pension fund, but its now down to my generation to pay for your retirement, so give us a bit of slack if we happen to enjoy the pleasure a pet can bring to our lives

-edit- apologies for the confrontational nature of my posting here, but as you can understand I'm quite passionate about this. I've never caused a problem for a landlord, always paid on time, and never had to have a deposit deducted for anything other than "curtain cleaning", but that doesn't stop me strongly believing we should be free to live as we choose.


I think my post needs more smilies

Let me reiterate, Nick, I am more than happy to have pets - please don't shoot me down.

I've never watched a programme with Lawrence L-B in it and certainly do not rent out my house furnished!

Yes, we are lucky to own a property which we can rent out - we got it through hard graft, my husband being a self-employed carpenter and not having the luxury of pension schemes!

Unfortunately my last tenant's deposit did not cover the £6000 for non-payment of rent and damage to property, but heyho, it is my choice as you so rightly say.

And please don't think you have to pay for my pension, that's what my 'quaint' home is for!;)