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boredbird
20-02-2007, 12:59 PM
Is there anywhere on the net that gives the info about TDS? Also can any of you clever people answer me a question please.
Does the sheme say that there has to be an "independant" inventory clerk to do the inventory? Does this mean that agents can not use there own staff ans most seem to do at prescent?
Thanks

Poppy
20-02-2007, 13:15 PM
Have a look at the Communities and Local Government (http://www.communities.gov.uk/index.asp?id=1152035) website.

All you had to do was type "tenant deposit protection scheme" into any search engine.

M.A.O.H
20-02-2007, 18:40 PM
Is there anywhere on the net that gives the info about TDS? Also can any of you clever people answer me a question please.
Does the sheme say that there has to be an "independant" inventory clerk to do the inventory? Does this mean that agents can not use there own staff ans most seem to do at prescent?
Thanks

my deposit was guaranteed. the inventory just has to be the official one you receive when you take on your tenancy, it's just so the council don't get any ludicrous claims on it during the time period they are guaranteeing it.

boredbird
20-02-2007, 19:38 PM
Thanks MAOH

boredbird
20-02-2007, 19:54 PM
Thank you Poppy, I never thought of that !!!:rolleyes:

nick..
21-02-2007, 21:57 PM
All,

One thing I'm not clear on here with regards these TDS's

I have given my deposit to my Estate Agent, and re-sign my AST every 12 months. This year, can I request it is moved to a TDS?

I believe they keep it with a 3rd party, but even so, I can still request the above can't I?

Thanks

settloe_99
22-02-2007, 07:06 AM
My understanding is that if you re-new an existing AST after the TDS comes into effect then yes the deposit will need safeguaring with a TDS

Paul_f
22-02-2007, 10:49 AM
For those of you who still don't know the website where you can obtain all the information you need is www.tds.gb.com

Hayley
23-02-2007, 12:00 PM
Boredbird,

A lot of agencies who have previously taken inventories in-house are now looking to inventory companies to do them instead. An inventory does not need to be done by an independant clerk. However, independent inventory clerks do specialise in making inventories and therefore it is helpful to have one done independently.

It is a common problem among landlord-made inventories that there is not enough detail to cover all eventualities. Inventory companies know what to look for and what needs to be included on an inventory.

There is more information on my website, including another link to the Tenancy Deposit Scheme: http://www.about-inventories.com

Hope this helps.

Esio Trot
23-02-2007, 15:21 PM
Boredbird,

There is more information on my website, including another link to the Tenancy Deposit Scheme: http://www.about-inventories.com

Hope this helps.

Your website does not conform to trading standards requirements, as you do not provide (or at least I could not find) contact details nor the status of the firm or individual operating the site.

I appreciate that your site is home-designed, nevertheless you should adhere to good practice if you expect customers to part with money.

As a start I suggest you log onto W3C (http://validator.w3.org/) to test your html coding. You will find that most pages fail the first level of validation.

Hayley
23-02-2007, 15:39 PM
Esio,

Thank you for your comments. There is in fact a "Contact Us" button on both the top and bottom navigation bars. However, if you find that these are not conspicuous enough then I will make them more so.

Please clarify for me what you mean by the "status" of the firm and individual operating the site.

Regarding what you call "good practise" I have done so to the best of my ability, but I always welcome further comments from customers or viewers such as yourself.

Finally, regarding validation, some of my pages will indeed fail a validation test as a horizontal bar (<HR size=5 width="70%">) does not validate.

Steve C
23-02-2007, 15:48 PM
Your website does not conform to trading standards requirements, as you do not provide (or at least I could not find) contact details nor the status of the firm or individual operating the site.

I appreciate that your site is home-designed, nevertheless you should adhere to good practice if you expect customers to part with money.

As a start I suggest you log onto W3C (http://validator.w3.org/) to test your html coding. You will find that most pages fail the first level of validation.

I have to agree with comments made here and having looked at some sample pages on the site, would even have to question whether they are comprehensive enough. "Walls scuffed". To what extent? In need of complete decoration or just some touching up? How could a judge rely on this if presented with a landlord saying the room needed redecorating and a tenant saying that there were a couple of marks 2-3cm long and hardly noticable.

Steve C
23-02-2007, 15:53 PM
There is in fact a "Contact Us" button on both the top and bottom navigation bars. However, if you find that these are not conspicuous enough then I will make them more so.



It is actually a legal requirement to supply an address on websites when selling goods or services.

Ericthelobster
23-02-2007, 17:27 PM
I'm not qualified to comment on the legalities etc, but if I may make a constructive criticism, you really ought to lose that dreadful italicised font. It's very difficult to read!

Just been back to look, and further to what others have said about contact info etc: whatever the legal requirements, it's an oft-stated reccomendation that you shouldn't trust a website selling anything where you can't verify it's genuine... in your case, you've obviously taken the decision to make this an email-only operation, and that means that no phone number, address, nothing... ie you could be a spotty teenager in his back bedroom in Japan trying to turn a fast buck - OK, not really, and I'm not implying you're anything but straight and honest, but all I'm saying is it certainly won't inspire much confidence in potential customers.

Paul_f
25-02-2007, 22:06 PM
Boredbird,

A lot of agencies who have previously taken inventories in-house are now looking to inventory companies to do them instead. An inventory does not need to be done by an independant clerk. However, independent inventory clerks do specialise in making inventories and therefore it is helpful to have one done independently.

It is a common problem among landlord-made inventories that there is not enough detail to cover all eventualities. Inventory companies know what to look for and what needs to be included on an inventory.

There is more information on my website, including another link to the Tenancy Deposit Scheme: http://www.about-inventories.com
Hope this helps.I haven't looked at this website nor do I intend to. All I can say is that any serious player involved in inventory compilation should join the AIIC (Association of Independent Inventory Clerks). There are minimum standards and requirements concerning insurance indeminity. I expect them to grow under TDS!

caroline7758
26-02-2007, 09:27 AM
In case anyone finds it misleading, in the link given by Paul f. the TDS stands for The Dispute Service, not Tenancy Deposit Schemes. The dipute service is running one of the three schemes available. For details of all, and info on how the whole thing works, see the CLG pages;
http://www.communities.gov.uk/index.asp?id=1152035

PdV
26-02-2007, 13:31 PM
All,

One thing I'm not clear on here with regards these TDS's

I have given my deposit to my Estate Agent, and re-sign my AST every 12 months. This year, can I request it is moved to a TDS?

I believe they keep it with a 3rd party, but even so, I can still request the above can't I?

Thanks

Hi Nick,

If you renew your tenancy agreement before the TDS comes into force in April, then, no you can't request that it be held in a TDS, but if you renew after, then you don;t have to request that it be handled by the TDS - it is mandatory.

All letting agencies should be aware of this legislation and should let you know in due course as to what will become of your deposit. If, however, your landlord handles your tenancy direct, then it's quite possible that he is unaware of the TDS or, even if he is aware of it, perhaps plans to ignore it. I would therefore suggest that you contact him asap to ask what his plans are.

If your tenancy is not renewed, and becomes a periodic tenancy, then the landlord or agent are not required to use a TDS, even if you ask. I know a great many private landlords are expecting to do just this.

Regards,
Paul.

Hayley
27-02-2007, 09:52 AM
I take on board all that has been said.

I currently work for a long-established local company trading in Sussex, Surrey and Hampshire. About Inventories is a sister business I am in the later stages of compiling. I will admit this is the first time I have compiled a website so do indeed have teething problems as each of you suggest. Rest assured that your suggestions are now on my to-do list.

Steve C: "Walls scuffed" means a rough mark (say, if you took your shoe off and slapped it hard against a wall you would create a scuff). I consider this to be as much detail as is required because a) it says that the affliction to the wall is not a structural one. No matter how many scuffs to a wall it is not going to fall down. And b) you'd have your work cut out finding a paint that matched exactly the colour previously painted on the wall before the scuff appeared. Even if you use the same can of paint the wall will have darkened, lightened or otherwise coloured due to dust, sunlight, cigarette smoke etc. So a complete application of paint rather than touch-ups is always best. Finally c) the words used in the sample inventory is a guide only - if you prefer to give sizes for the scuffs you are absolutely free to do so.

Thank you, Ericthelobster, for your comments re the choice of font. I intended to find a vintage-style font, but it would appear that the choice is not to your taste. Also, what a lovely thought to be back to that age again. I am assuming your text is not written by a spotty teenager sitting in a back room?

Paul_f: I assure you that I am serious about this company. However, I have not encountered any text that says it is compulsory for me to be affiliated with the AIIC, so have not yet done so. I am, however, aware that much about the inventory compilation service will tighten up as a result of the TDS and intend to keep fully up to speed.

To date, we have sold approx. 800 complete packages mainly to university students who cannot afford the prices agents demand. Most of my customers are very pleased with the first-class after-sales support I have offered.

Paragon
27-02-2007, 09:59 AM
Hayley,
I think you have an excellent niche business catering to those that do not want to spend £150 for an Independent Inventory Company to do the analysis of condition.

I commend you for your foresight!

Hayley
27-02-2007, 10:14 AM
Paragon,

Thank you very much for your kind comments.

We have had similar comments to this from many of the students who have taken one of our inventories and, on check out, found difficulty in retrieving their deposits.

Paragon - may I speak with you? My email address is admin@about-inventories.com.

Paragon
27-02-2007, 10:35 AM
Paragon,

Thank you very much for your kind comments.

We have had similar comments to this from many of the students who have taken one of our inventories and, on check out, found difficulty in retrieving their deposits.

Paragon - may I speak with you? My email address is admin@about-inventories.com.

Sure - can you send me a PM?

Hayley
27-02-2007, 10:42 AM
Of course - your PM is ready for you.

Flo
27-02-2007, 13:12 PM
Sorry if this seems a really stupid question but why would a ll or agent opt for the insurance scheme which charges a fee per office when the custodial scheme is free, funded by interest accrued? Thanks.

P.Pilcher
27-02-2007, 14:09 PM
If you pay the fee, you can keep the deposit and the interest that it accrues. This may be greater than the fee. The fee can also be passed on as an administrative cost to the tenant (why should we landlords have to pay out of our own pockets for the greater deposit security afforded to tenants by this mandatory scheme?)

P.P.

lorenzo
27-02-2007, 14:26 PM
If you pay the fee, you can keep the deposit and the interest that it accrues. This may be greater than the fee. The fee can also be passed on as an administrative cost to the tenant (why should we landlords have to pay out of our own pockets for the greater deposit security afforded to tenants by this mandatory scheme?)

P.P.
Because the threat to the security of the deposit is from landlords?

Anyway, I thought is was the agents that have to cough up. The LL custodial scheme is free?