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rigsby_d1111
08-11-2006, 23:20 PM
(1) Any building which is occupied principally for the purposes of a religious community whose principal occupation is prayer, contemplation, education or the relief of suffering.

e.g if I regularly give all tenants bibles and so on - no joke here I do this as a matter of course and have done so for years - then what is the official definition of a place of religious worship?

red40
09-11-2006, 00:00 AM
My view, for what its worth is that the HA2004 is trying to create an exclusion for cohesive monastic groups like nuns, monks (usually adults) etc. which seems perfectly reasonable.

But there is no definition of a religious community in the HA2004, so I suppose you could challenge this in a court of law or the RPT.

What would be the deciding factor is the wording of the phrase "religious community whose principal occupation is prayer, contemplation, education or the relief of suffering".

Blobby
15-11-2006, 20:55 PM
Why? What are the advantages of having a religious community?

red40
16-11-2006, 13:10 PM
Why? What are the advantages of having a religious community?

It would not be classed as a HMO, excluding Part 1 (HHSRS)

rigsby_d1111
19-11-2006, 19:47 PM
Why? What are the advantages of having a religious community?


It would also be exempt from paying any council tax :)

Poppy
20-11-2006, 12:21 PM
Is this a troll posting or for amusement?

If you are seeking a definition for a religious place of worship then a landlord and tenant forum is not the right place. And I'm not about to point you elsewhere.

rigsby_d1111
20-11-2006, 12:49 PM
Is this a troll posting or for amusement?

If you are seeking a definition for a religious place of worship then a landlord and tenant forum is not the right place. And I'm not about to point you elsewhere.

I'm merely quoting what is says on the forms you joyless wonder

jeffrey
20-11-2006, 15:08 PM
I'm merely quoting what is says on the forms you joyless wonder

But not paying tax is not the normal reason for having a religious community.

Even Human Rights Act nonsense wouldn't allow you to claim exemption simply on grounds that paying tax is against your religion (The Fervent Believers in Tax Evasion).

rigsby_d1111
20-11-2006, 21:02 PM
But not paying tax is not the normal reason for having a religious community.

Even Human Rights Act nonsense wouldn't allow you to claim exemption simply on grounds that paying tax is against your religion (The Fervent Believers in Tax Evasion).


I did not put any slant to my statement other than have the temerity to pop a smily at the end of it. As I stated previosly i was simply quoting from the booklet being sent around. I kinow of certain Islamic cultural centres that don't pay any council tax on these grounds - so joyless wonder Poppy can put his red thumb wherever he/she sees fit

jeffrey
21-11-2006, 10:32 AM
I did not put any slant to my statement other than have the temerity to pop a smily at the end of it. As I stated previosly i was simply quoting from the booklet being sent around. I kinow of certain Islamic cultural centres that don't pay any council tax on these grounds - so joyless wonder Poppy can put his red thumb wherever he/she sees fit

Charities get 80% mandatory relief from Council Tax (and can ask Local Authority for exemption from the other 20%)- could that be the explanation?