How many toilets required in 3-floor 8-bed HMO?

[halfax]

i am thinking of turning a six bed into a himo for 8 ( using living room and dining room as bedrooms ) it has three bathrooms
1 on top floor .wc, whb ,and shower
2 middle floor wc , whb shower and bath
3 on ground floor, wc shower , whb and shower.
is this enough
also ,it already as a fire alarm system but bells on each floor.
do i need sounders in each room as well ?

[red40]

Amenity Standards In Relation to Number of Persons

1-4 persons

No requirement for wash hand basins in sleeping rooms.
At least 1 bathroom and 1 WC (the bathroom and WC may be combined)
WHB not required in bedrooms.

5 persons

1 WHB required in each sleeping room plus
1 bathroom AND
1 separate WC and WHB (but the WC can be contained within a second bathroom)

6-10 persons

1 WHB required in each sleeping room plus
2 bathrooms AND
2 separate WCs with WHBs (but one of the WCs can be contained within one of the bathrooms)

Sounders, depends on what you local authority are asking for and what has been agreed with the relevant fire authority.

[HIMO]

Some dependence will have to be given to which local authority standards you are required to comply and have you considered any planning, building control requirements or kitchen facilities arrangements?
A mixture of bells and sounders may not be an acceptable arrangement.

You are advised to consult with your local authority on the proposals you suggest at an early stage prior to any construction work commencing !

[red40]

Some dependence will have to be given to which local authority standards you are required to comply

There is no local authority standards for washing facilities, its a national standard which every local authority will have to implement for a licensable HMO.

[HIMO]

Accepted RED and thinking of possible provision of an en-suite. Would a WHB still be required, perhaps depends on a local authority standard and something to consider when turning 6 bed HMO into 8 !

[red40]

(one LL told me the way to avoid licensing was just to have 4 tenants on the AST!) adding to their burden.

Thats were may of the problems are arising from due to some landlords reducing numbers to 4 to avoid HMO licensing and once they are reduced to 4they think the property no longer a HMO, which isn't correct. There seems to be alot of confusion between HMO licensing and a HMO definition.