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StevefromKent
22-05-2010, 02:39 AM
Can anybody advise me on any good fire safety measures for a HMO? (student flat 4 beds and a shared kitchen)
I have fulfilled my legal requirements but wanted to provide some extra measures beyond my obligation just for peace of mind.

tom999
22-05-2010, 07:51 AM
Can anybody advise me on any good fire safety measures for a HMO? (student flat 4 beds and a shared kitchen)
I have fulfilled my legal requirements but wanted to provide some extra measures beyond my obligation just for peace of mind.Best to speak to Local council's HMO department and ask them to inspect for specific advice. The following are general requirements:
* Mains wired fire alarm system (e.g. LD2 with control panel and sensors in each room) and emergency lighting - tested every 6 months
* Fire doors (to FD 30 standard, with intumescent strips).
* Fire blanket in kitchen
* Exit doors with thumb turn locks
* If furnished, then furniture must be of a fire resistant standard
* Fire extinguishers

Also some University Student Housing department's have an accreditation scheme, which may have additional criteria.

StevefromKent
22-05-2010, 11:12 AM
Thanks Tom999. I will look into this.

StevefromKent
25-05-2010, 00:54 AM
Has anyone considered or installed sprinklers? Any opininons or recommended suppliers for retrofit?

mind the gap
25-05-2010, 11:07 AM
Has anyone considered or installed sprinklers? Any opininons or recommended suppliers for retrofit?

Not much use with toast-burning tenants, I'm afraid.

owen
25-05-2010, 21:21 PM
Has anyone considered or installed sprinklers? Any opininons or recommended suppliers for retrofit?


I have had to install sprinklers in three properties due to building regulations - i had converted the lofts and a sprinkler system was the only way to protect the means of escape in the event of fire.

They are very expensive - it cost around £2k, which is ridiculous for what is only basic plumbing. However, it is the design you are paying for - building control will want a design from a properly qualified engineer (FIRAS i think is the main organisation).

Note that this was only required by building regs - the fact that the house is a HMO was not relevant in this case as the property was non-licensable. If it had been my own house, they would still have insisted on it.

If you need any more info on sprinklers then PM me.

owen
25-05-2010, 21:22 PM
Not much use with toast-burning tenants, I'm afraid.

they are heat activated, so will not be set off by smoke.

owen
25-05-2010, 21:27 PM
As well as fire doors, it is usually required to ensure 30 mins fire separation between floors - this usually means overboarding ceilings with plasterboard, although you can now get a specialist paint which can be applied to ceilings (or doors, or walls) to acheive 30 mins protection.

I have also seen them ask for floorboards to be overboarded with hardboard. I don't really understand how this helps with fire protection though.

StevefromKent
28-05-2010, 15:11 PM
They are very expensive - it cost around £2k, which is ridiculous for what is only basic plumbing. However, it is the design you are paying for - building control will want a design from a properly qualified engineer (FIRAS i think is the main organisation).

Fortunately in my case I’m not looking for a compensatory measure but totally agree though. My tenants always seem to be pyromanics and I have been burned before (pun intended).

StevefromKent
29-06-2010, 12:04 PM
I think I will go for either firetrace or automist I saw both of these at a fire show and both seemed quite impressive as easy to retrofit devices to protect from kitchen fires (http://www.firetrace.co.uk/products.html or http://www.plumis.co.uk/index.html).