Electrical Certificate

[mattygg]

Hi Guys,

Just a quick question if anyone can help. Im due to be renting out my property in about 2 months (depending when my new purchase get finished). I have authority from my lender and i have a plumber coming round to give me my gas certificate. I have spoken to an electrician to get a certificate to say my electrics were in order, however he told me that there were lots of certificates which he could do. I was wondering whether anyone else on this forum had received an electrical certificate and if so could you tell me the number/name of the form so i can get one done.

Thanks very much

Matt

[Mrs Jones]

You do not actually need an electrical certificate in the way you need a gas safety certificate to be legal.

What your electrician is saying is that it is up to you what you want him to check - and then certificate. He could probably check the wiring, the consumer unit, fixed appliances like fitted ovens/hobs etc. If your property is reasonably new you really don't need anything - except possibly to get any stand alone electrical appliances checked (e.g. anything which plugs in such as a lamp or iron etc. if you are letting furnished).

Any new work carried out should be done or checked by a qualified electrician and a certificate issued for that work.

[jta]

Any new work carried out should be done or checked by a qualified electrician and a certificate issued for that work.

The work does not have to be done by the electrician but it must be checked by a qualified one afterwards. (I've just brought a place up to 17th edition standards) most of it is common sense, but you need to be something of a contortionist

[thesaint]

The work does not have to be done by the electrician but it must be checked by a qualified one afterwards. (I've just brought a place up to 17th edition standards) most of it is common sense, but you need to be something of a contortionist

Isn't that what she said?

[Ericthelobster]

I have spoken to an electrician to get a certificate to say my electrics were in order, however he told me that there were lots of certificates which he could do.As you've been correctly advised, this is not compulsory; however the usual certification which landlords have done is a Periodic Inspection Report.

[ncoups]

The work does not have to be done by the electrician but it must be checked by a qualified one afterwards. (I've just brought a place up to 17th edition standards) most of it is common sense, but you need to be something of a contortionist

This is not true, an electrician CANNOT certify other peoples work, you can however have the coucil come and inspect it at various stages through the install to ensure the install is above board.

The ONLY certificate an electrician can issue on other peoples works, is a PIR or Periodic Inspection report.

[lukehayes]

This is not true, an electrician CANNOT certify other peoples work, you can however have the coucil come and inspect it at various stages through the install to ensure the install is above board.

The ONLY certificate an electrician can issue on other peoples works, is a PIR or Periodic Inspection report.

i have always believed this due to certificate signiture requirements. however it seems this might not be true, napit full scope and nic approved contractors can sign of other work, as long as you have indemnity insurance to 250'000. personally i think its wrong and unfair on domestic installers who cant. even though i believe signing anyone else's work off is wrong.
what registration do you have?

[ncoups]

I'm in proccess of changing from NICEIC to NAPIT, you may sign off colleagues/employees work if you are properly accredited, but I've never heard of signing certificates to others work ( not legally anyway )

[BS76712008]

Hi Guys,

Just a quick question if anyone can help. Im due to be renting out my property in about 2 months (depending when my new purchase get finished). I have authority from my lender and i have a plumber coming round to give me my gas certificate. I have spoken to an electrician to get a certificate to say my electrics were in order, however he told me that there were lots of certificates which he could do. I was wondering whether anyone else on this forum had received an electrical certificate and if so could you tell me the number/name of the form so i can get one done.

Thanks very much

Matt


Hello

Mrs. Jones may have a few good points but not many. Without being nasty.

Times ive had to type this - lost count! If you are going to let a property then as far as the electrical installation is concerned my advice is as follows - get the whole installation tested ( period inspection and test) then just like an MOT for your car! the electrician will show any deviations from BS 7671 2008 and / or safety issues etc etc too complicated for me to explain just now, if one thing is wrong then your car fails the mot! however it is slightly different when dealing with electrical installations etc.. have you considered your other obligations? such as smoke/ heat / carbon monoxide detectors which are also part of the ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION! Get your self an honest and well qualified electrician - sorry but the best are hard to find......

Don't usE A NON UK TYPE! THEY JUST DONT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE!

They are mainly a total bunch of messas, don't beleive me? just wait and see what happens when you employ one then!

Lee.

[Ericthelobster]

Mrs. Jones may have a few good points but not many. Without being nasty.
[...]
get the whole installation tested ( period inspection and test) then just like an MOT for your car! the electrician will show any deviations from BS 7671 2008 and / or safety issues etc etc too complicated for me to explain just now, if one thing is wrong then your car fails the mot!Ok, so if you're hung up on cars and MOTs, you'll be aware that a new car doesn't require an MOT at all (which is pretty much what Mrs Jones said about a new property not requiring electrical testing, and which I'd agree with).


the electrician will show any deviations from BS 7671 2008 and / or safety issues etc etc too complicated for me to explain just nowYes, exactly, and probably much of it is too complicated for your average member of the public to understand anyway - basically, it's 'trust me, the property doesn't conform to the current standards and you need to pay me £XXX to bring it up to scratch otherwise it's unsafe'. Yet as you will be aware, there is no requirement to have work done every time the regs change, and just because something doesn't conform to 2010 standards it does not mean it's fundamentally unsafe. There are millions of homes (including my own) which fall into this category.


Don't usE A NON UK TYPE! Is that BNP-speak for 'don't use foreign electricians'?


They are mainly a total bunch of messas, don't beleive me? just wait and see what happens when you employ one then!Even one who has all the proper UK qualifications, as Mrs Jones has advocated? If so, doesn't that make a bit of a mockery of the qualification?

[L8r]

The 17th edition wiring reg's requires domestic properties to be tested at least every 10 years, or at change of occupancy.

If there is a fast turn around of tenancy the requirement of inspection at change of occupancy would become very silly, imo.

True there is no specific legal requirement for a LL to periodically cause inspection. but in the event of example, fire or shock fatality, proving relevant inspection to the HSE could save a LL a lot of investigative aggro.