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mind the gap
03-02-2010, 16:46 PM
The owner of this 'castle' home is being required to demolish it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/8495412.stm

Any views?

Rodent1
03-02-2010, 17:55 PM
Any views?

Yes panoramic apparently;)

Lawcruncher
03-02-2010, 19:14 PM
Too clever for his own good. The courts do not like that.

jeffrey
03-02-2010, 20:47 PM
Yes panoramic apparently;)
Can't be; I don't see any Dimbleby there.

Preston
03-02-2010, 20:57 PM
His planning and architectural skills seem well matched.

jeffrey
03-02-2010, 21:19 PM
But his name says it all- what a fidler!

wilfred
04-02-2010, 14:33 PM
Yeah, and just wait until the day comes when he has to pull it down.
I can just see the headlines now,`Fidler on the Roof!'

Rodent1
04-02-2010, 14:38 PM
I would move out and rent it to a group of single, pregnant, lesbian asylum seekers and see what effect that had on decision:)

jeffrey
04-02-2010, 14:46 PM
Perhaps he's suffering from Turrets' Syndrome?

jeffrey
04-02-2010, 14:48 PM
Or, as it's a castle:
a. he could move it two squares along and jump his King over it; or
b. he hopes that it will rook the Local Planning Authority.

islandgirl
04-02-2010, 15:26 PM
just the picture of the people involved made me think "pull it down" - they did themselves no favours, especiallly the lady in the very very low cut dress (meow)

mind the gap
04-02-2010, 15:34 PM
just the picture of the people involved made me think "pull it down" - they did themselves no favours, especiallly the lady in the very very low cut dress (meow)
:confused:Which lady in a low cut dress?

jeffrey
04-02-2010, 15:59 PM
No, they're not turrets.

Rodent1
04-02-2010, 16:01 PM
No, they're not turrets.


They might be when she is lying down.

islandgirl
04-02-2010, 16:11 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1248226/Farmers-secret-castle-demolished-court-rules.html

And no, I am not a daily mail reader!

mind the gap
04-02-2010, 16:27 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1248226/Farmers-secret-castle-demolished-court-rules.html

And no, I am not a daily mail reader!

I see what you mean. Perhaps she is just being mediaeval, to match the castle?

Or perhaps we just should just be honest about the whole thing and admit that we don't like the nouveau riche and chavs with ideas above their station, very much?

jeffrey
04-02-2010, 16:30 PM
They might be when she is lying down.
Or if she goes on a bouncy castle.

mind the gap
04-02-2010, 16:35 PM
Or if she goes on a bouncy castle.
Yuck. Perhaps you and Rodent should keep your sexual fantasies to yourselves. This is a family forum after all. :rolleyes:

jeffrey
04-02-2010, 16:43 PM
If it's a family, it might include a mother. They have those frontal protuberance things, surely?

jeffrey
04-02-2010, 16:44 PM
above their station
Railway announcers are.

mind the gap
04-02-2010, 16:52 PM
If it's a family, it might include a mother. They have those frontal protuberance things, surely?
Perhaps you need to get yourself down to the nearest newsagent's and ask if you can have a rummage on the top shelf. I'm sure you'll find something to relieve yourself with.

islandgirl
04-02-2010, 17:15 PM
we probably can't say "mother" now -not pc - how about "primary carer"? I know our local mums and tots group had to become parent and toddler....

mind the gap
04-02-2010, 17:18 PM
we probably can't say "mother" now -not pc - how about "primary carer"? I know our local mums and tots group had to become parent and toddler....

:confused:Isn't that a good thing ? Maybe more fathers would go along if they weren't encouraged to think of it as a purely female group.

Or does it aim to exclude fathers?

(Not sure why 'toddlers' is more pc than 'tots' though?)

Rodent1
04-02-2010, 17:39 PM
'tots' no doubt, could possibly offend someone, somewhere ....

Now we can't have that can we ?:rolleyes:

mind the gap
04-02-2010, 17:48 PM
'tots' no doubt, could possibly offend someone, somewhere ....

:rolleyes:

Could they? That's what I was asking. The two words seem much more similar in their connotations than 'Mums' and 'Dads'. 'Parents and Small Demented Goats' would be a more accurate description of my experience of pre-school playgroups, however.

jeffrey
05-02-2010, 09:17 AM
'tots' no doubt, could possibly offend someone, somewhere ....

Now we can't have that can we ?
Tots? I don't mind if I do**. Trebles all round!^^

** see http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_q=ITMA&as_epq=I+don't+mind+if+I+do&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images

^^ see http://wapedia.mobi/en/Recurring_in-jokes_in_Private_Eye

islandgirl
05-02-2010, 10:14 AM
mine's an Isle of Jura (make it a double)

quarterday
05-02-2010, 10:35 AM
i think the court came to the wrong decision. the bales were not part of the building. besides, its magnificent.

mind the gap
05-02-2010, 10:54 AM
i think the court came to the wrong decision. the bales were not part of the building. besides, its magnificent.

I bet the electricity and gas bills are even more magnificent.

quarterday
05-02-2010, 11:06 AM
reminds me of the saying.. if you have to ask what it costs, you cant afford it!

islandgirl
05-02-2010, 11:27 AM
i think the court came to the wrong decision. the bales were not part of the building. besides, its magnificent.

Thing is, to excape planning rules the building must have been there 5 yrs and have been visible and "open" to anyone to see. Clearly this was not...the fact that the bales were not part of the building was the builder's downfall, therefore.

jeffrey
05-02-2010, 11:40 AM
It's sorting out the wheat from the chaff. That goes against the grain. Perhaps the owner will bale out? Is he a man of straw? Maybe getting his oats.

mind the gap
05-02-2010, 11:50 AM
It's sorting out the wheat from the chaff. That goes against the grain. Perhaps the owner will bale out? Is he a man of straw? Maybe getting his oats.
Will someone please put a cloth over Jeffrey's cage? He's going to get overexcited if he goes on like this and he'll fall off his perch.

jeffrey
05-02-2010, 11:52 AM
Hmm. You seem to know lots of 'sayings' that only you have ever heard of.
We've all (except you) heard of it. It originally related to Rolls-Royce cars. See:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/53/messages/626.html or http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_q=afford&as_epq=if+you+have+to+ask&as_oq=price+cost&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images

mind the gap
05-02-2010, 12:11 PM
We've all (except you) heard of it. It originally related to Rolls-Royce cars. See:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/53/messages/626.html or http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_q=afford&as_epq=if+you+have+to+ask&as_oq=price+cost&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images
Actually, I removed my post because I realised

(i) where the saying came from
(ii) that it wasn't you who posted it, but quarterday

Notwithstanding you do come out with some obscure so-called 'sayings'. Why not just come out with them and appear original?! :)

jeffrey
05-02-2010, 12:25 PM
For JSS originals (you heard 'em here first, lady), see http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=25966

mind the gap
05-02-2010, 12:32 PM
For JSS originals (you heard 'em here first, lady), see http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=25966

Hmmm. Yes, very...original, I must admit.

(But don't give up your day job!)

The scansion made me wince a little, I'm afraid.

jeffrey
05-02-2010, 12:34 PM
Hmmm. Yes, very...original, I must admit.

(But don't give up your day job!)

The scansion made me wince a little, I'm afraid.
We await your more learned contribution, then; as another saying (of which you may or may not have heard) goes, "Put up or..."

mind the gap
05-02-2010, 12:39 PM
We await your more learned contribution, then; as another saying (of which you may or may not have heard) goes, "Put up or..."
There you go again, taking offence where none was intended!
Lawcruncher writes better limericks than I do, anyway. ;)

jeffrey
05-02-2010, 12:44 PM
There you go again, taking offence where none was intended!
Lawcruncher writes better limericks than I do, anyway.
Now who's wriggling? Show us what you can do.

mind the gap
05-02-2010, 12:52 PM
Now who's wriggling? Show us what you can do.

Sorry, I don't do limericks. I quite like the form (in fact, nonsense poetry generally), but limericks suffered a sharp decline in quality after Edward Lear died. I like the way they can be used for the purposes of comic deflation with only limited scope for public indignation on the part of the person being satirised.

jeffrey
05-02-2010, 13:03 PM
I feel a 'mind the gap' limerick coming in the near future...

mind the gap
05-02-2010, 13:14 PM
I feel a 'mind the gap' limerick coming in the near future...

Feel free. I can take it! (Will your pride allow you to risk the reply, though?!) :D

Lawcruncher
05-02-2010, 13:45 PM
Finding a rhyme for Jeffrey is a challenge.

mind the gap
05-02-2010, 13:46 PM
Finding a rhyme for Jeffrey is a challenge.
True. But I am working on the possibilities for his Nether Edge.:D

Izzycam
06-02-2010, 15:15 PM
Watched a programme on this a couple of months ago, he seemed to be laughing in the face of bureaucracy, if he'd kept schtum, he would more than likely have just got a good telling off, instead he alienated his neigbours and the planning dept.
Quick tip!
Don't ever, ever tick off your local planning office,they will hunt you down and make it they're life's work to bring you down, if your not careful.
Much less hassle to befriend them and get them on your side.

jeffrey
09-07-2010, 09:00 AM
Hot news: 'straw bale' man wins appeal! He can stay castled.
See http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/professionals/news/archive/2010/july2010/2010_07_week_2/080710_4

Sad S
12-07-2010, 15:46 PM
Hot news: 'straw bale' man wins appeal! He can stay castled.
See http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/professionals/news/archive/2010/july2010/2010_07_week_2/080710_4

Ah, Jim Wallis, Forest of Dean District Council...

sadly this is not the same person/case/castle as

Robert Fidler, Reigate and Banstead Borough Council.

jeffrey
12-07-2010, 15:50 PM
Another man of straw? How confusing. He's making hay whilst the sun shines.

Springfields
12-07-2010, 22:20 PM
I remember them they were on homes from hell ..... silly man might of got away with it if he hadnt publically declared the council were looking into it ......so they really had no option...... he even wrote to the Queen asking for her support saying "an English mans home is his castle" or something along that lines .......

Sorry if it said that in the article I just looked at the picture

Springfields
12-07-2010, 22:22 PM
Don't ever, ever tick off your local planning office,they will hunt you down and make it they're life's work to bring you down, if your not careful.Much less hassle to befriend them and get them on your side.

Tell me about it I've been plying ours with costas and cakes during our site visits :D

jeffrey
13-07-2010, 11:30 AM
Yes, Planning Officers costas an arm and a leg.