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nebsafc
22-05-2009, 09:51 AM
My lettings company are now offering landlords free energy performance certificates for new rental properties.

Ben

cymro123
22-05-2009, 11:12 AM
Nothing is free - somebody somewhere has to pay for these and it would appear that you have simply been over-charging for HIPS? - not very customer focused. I hope you don't overcharge your customers for all your services as part of a cheap marketing trick.

Tom

nebsafc
22-05-2009, 12:08 PM
Nothing is free - somebody somewhere has to pay for these and it would appear that you have simply been over-charging for HIPS? - not very customer focused. I hope you don't overcharge your customers for all your services as part of a cheap marketing trick.

Tom

Hip packs are £200 + VAT..

Cheapest in the north east (independantly), we take £57.50 from each pack to cover the epc which is cheap as chips imo..

We can do this as all of our staff are fully qualified energy assessors. Basically we are offering these for free to show our customer focus and service.

jeffrey
22-05-2009, 12:19 PM
Hip packs are £200 + VAT..

Cheapest in the north east (independantly), we take £57.50 from each pack to cover the epc which is cheap as chips imo..

We can do this as all of our staff are fully qualified energy assessors. Basically we are offering these for free to show our customer focus and service.
HIPS as cheap as CHIPS? Hope the chips have pins.

nebsafc
22-05-2009, 12:45 PM
HIPS as cheap as CHIPS? Hope the chips have pins.

compared to the £350 + Halifax are charging, i think it is rather reasonable.. :p

mind the gap
22-05-2009, 21:38 PM
There is no such thing as a free lunch. :)

jta
23-05-2009, 13:45 PM
There is no such thing as a free lunch. :)

Do you mean 'Tanstaafl'? There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
originating in the 1940s and later popularized by science fiction writer Robert A. Heinlein in his 1966 novel 'The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress.'

MTG, you really have to brush up on your slang!

Yeah yeah, I can see the double neg as well.

jeffrey
26-05-2009, 11:53 AM
There is no such thing as a free lunch.
As a teacher, you know that poorer pupils do qualify for just that!

Rodent1
01-06-2009, 09:30 AM
Hip packs are £200 + VAT..

Cheapest in the north east (independantly), we take £57.50 from each pack to cover the epc which is cheap as chips imo..

We can do this as all of our staff are fully qualified energy assessors. Basically we are offering these for free to show our customer focus and service.

£40 seems to be going rate .......(inc Vat)...

mind the gap
01-06-2009, 15:12 PM
nebsafc : I challenge you to explain exactly how you show your customer focus.

It doesn't even seem to make sense, but I'm willing to be enlightened.

mind the gap
01-06-2009, 15:14 PM
As a teacher, you know that poorer pupils do qualify for just that!

Wrong, I'm afraid. It is not the pupils who are poor, but their parents.

And the lunch is not free, so much as subsidised.

jeffrey
01-06-2009, 15:19 PM
Or perhaps the pupils impoverish their parents, by insisting on designer goods which someone has to provide for £££ (unless by theft). All of this would be less likely (although still possible) if only the pupil had two parents co-resident at his or her home- again not nowdays a given.

jeffrey
01-06-2009, 15:20 PM
And the lunch is not free, so much as subsidised.
As politicians will tell you, there's no such thing as a free lunch*- although several of them do seem to enjoy many such.

*- here's the origins: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/tanstaafl.html

mind the gap
01-06-2009, 20:43 PM
Or perhaps the pupils impoverish their parents, by insisting on designer goods which someone has to provide for £££ (unless by theft). All of this would be less likely (although still possible) if only the pupil had two parents co-resident at his or her home- again not nowdays a given.

Household income has to be well below the national average for entitlement to subsidised lunches to kick in and I think you are being uncharacteristically sweeping in your assumptions here about recipeints of 'free school meals'. My experience over many years is that the pupils who benefit from such subsidies are as likely to have two parents as one, and they are the children who are least likely to be wearing designer label clothing, be in possession of the latest mobile phone or go on holidays to Tenerife.

Sorry to disappoint you.

jeffrey
01-06-2009, 22:38 PM
Most children do have two parents, I'll allow.
Where these actually are (esp. recalcitrant fathers not enthusiastic about CSA demands) is quite another question.
Me, make sweeping statements? As if I ever do that...

mind the gap
01-06-2009, 23:03 PM
Most children do have two parents, I'll allow.
Where these actually are (esp. recalcitrant fathers not enthusiastic about CSA demands) is quite another question.
Me, make sweeping statements? As if I ever do that...

OK, Mr Nitpicky. I'll re-phrase...'children who live in a two-parent family'. Better?

And if we want to be really pedantic (as if!), all children have two parents, not just 'most'. The second parent may be dead or absent, but as far as I know, no cloned human exists yet.

jeffrey
01-06-2009, 23:18 PM
Ah, but the mad scientists haven't told us yet...

PEDANTS' NEWS:
all children have two parents sounds as if the same two unfortunate people are all children's parents! It's better as each child has two parents.

mind the gap
01-06-2009, 23:46 PM
Ah, but the mad scientists haven't told us yet...

PEDANTS' NEWS:
all children have two parents sounds as if the same two unfortunate people are all children's parents! It's better as each child has two parents.
True, I suppose. It's grammatically not unlike the notice at our local swimming pool which states : 'Competent swimmers must supervise non-swimmers at all times'. It seems a little hard on the competent swimmers who just came along to swim competently and did not expect to have to start supervising all the nuisances who couldn't swim.

There's bound to be a law against it, anyway.

jeffrey
02-06-2009, 09:06 AM
It can be worse. Try explaining to a client about 'execution'; it sounds worse than it is, unless you live in 18th. Century France.