Property for sale now to be let instead- EPC needed?

[potnewagent]

Hi,

Could anyone tell me please:

If I visit a potential client and they have had their property on the market for sale for a few months and have aquired a hips pack, this includes the EPC, can I use this EPC to market the property for rental or do I need to get another carried out?




Many Thanks

[jta]

The EPC is good for ten years. You really ought to do a bit more homework

[potnewagent]

Thanks for your reply, I read somewhere that the EPC as part of the HIP pack when selling was valid for 3 years? (there seems to be conflicting reports)

Although knowing the certificate for renting is valid for 10 years and the same as the one in the pack, it makes sense you can use that one but I wasn't 100 per cent so part of my 'homework' is asking on here, I thought that's what this useful site was for????

[jta]

I think you would do better to do a proper course, at least one of our members offers one. Then you will be armed with the basics of what you are trying to do.

[potnewagent]

I think you would do better to do a proper course, at least one of our members offers one. Then you will be armed with the basics of what you are trying to do.


maybe your right!

i've been aiming at starting something myself for a while now but lifes little suprises just keep getting in the way, I have read conflicting reports on these EPCs though, one site advises that no component of the hips pack should be more than 12 months old, another says different parts are valid for different terms, I have spoken to a DEA and he advised me that if I get one done for a Landlord its valid for 10 years, I just didn't know whether the same applied to sales as I am not in and do not intend to be in sales.

[Sorrel]

From what I have been lead to believe if a EPC is done for sales in is valid for 3 years within a sellers market, an EPC carried out for rentals is 10 years. Whether one becomes the other I do not know but i had a sneaking suspicion that when created for sale and changed to rental it was still only valid for 3 years. Just another way to screw more money out of us. Of course things might of changed since October when they came into force.

[potnewagent]

From what I have been lead to believe if a EPC is done for sales in is valid for 3 years within a sellers market, an EPC carried out for rentals is 10 years. Whether one becomes the other I do not know but i had a sneaking suspicion that when created for sale and changed to rental it was still only valid for 3 years. Just another way to screw more money out of us. Of course things might of changed since October when they came into force.

thank you, that was my understanding, so can anyone confirm whether the sales EPC can be transferred to a letting EPC and how long it would be valid for?

[potnewagent]

The EPC is good for ten years. You really ought to do a bit more homework

right, i've just found another thread on this site which explains all, sorry to cover what is now old ground, to confirm, yes you can use the epc from a hips pack if the property is now going to be rented but it is only valid for 3 years as it was done for a hips pack, if in fact done on its own then it is valid for 10 years, so who is the one who needs to do his 'homework'?

[jta]

Me, I guess, but then I am not purporting to being an agent. Potnewagent is, and with all due respect to him, some of his questions are very basic and could be addressed by a short course in the work.

[mind the gap]

right, i've just found another thread on this site which explains all, sorry to cover what is now old ground, to confirm, yes you can use the epc from a hips pack if the property is now going to be rented but it is only valid for 3 years as it was done for a hips pack, if in fact done on its own then it is valid for 10 years, so who is the one who needs to do his 'homework'?

The one who cannot punctuate?

Who will be writing your letters for you when your business gets off the ground?:rolleyes:

[potnewagent]

The one who cannot punctuate?

Who will be writing your letters for you when your business gets off the ground?:rolleyes:


not me!

I'm not an agent yet, early days, just simply asking questions as i think of them, some of them are very basic I know but hey you have to start somewhere, this site is very good I have found alot of useful info on here and appreciate all the replies.

Thanks

[aobenergyassessors]

An EPC when used in a home information packs is valid within the home information pack for 3 years.

An EPC when used to show a prospective tenant is valid for 10 years.

e.g.
If an EPC is used for rental and then sale, a new EPC is not required, unless the EPC is over 3 years old.

If you buy a house to rent out, you can use the EPC from the home information pack and it is valid for 10 years
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note: I'm not sure if it is the date of issue or the survey date which is used, but there should only be a difference of a couple of days.

When EPCs are created (by a DEA), there is a section to enter if it is for rental or sale (and a few others) This is not shown on the EPC and makes no difference for its end use, this is where the confusion comes from.

I hope that answers your question.

[jta]

If you buy a house to rent out, you can use the EPC from the home information pack and it is valid for 10 years
__________________________________________________ _____
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Thanks a lot, looks like I was right after all (by accident) :D

[potnewagent]

after all that LOL ;)

see what I mean though, there are conflicting reports all over the place, why do we not all sing from the same hymn sheet???

[jeffrey]

after all that LOL ;)

see what I mean though, there are conflicting reports all over the place, why do we not all sing from the same hymn sheet???
Depends if you're a hymn or a her.

[jta]

Shouldn't that be hymn or hyr?

[mind the gap]

why do we not all sing from the same hymn sheet???

Why don't we ban the use of irritating cliches?

[jeffrey]

Why don't we ban the use of irritating cliches?
I avoid them like the plague. They're like a red rag to a bull. Never soil your hands with them. They make my blood boil.

[mind the gap]

I avoid them like the plague. They're like a red rag to a bull. Never soil your hands with them. They make my blood boil.

That's right - stand up and be counted!

[Sorrel]

On the other hand your guess is as good as mine as to why people feel the need to use clichés. Why buy the cow when you can have the milk for free as I always say but then I always think to myself well thats just the way the cookie crumbles. http://www.westegg.com/cliche/ is always a good website to help you out when you just can't find the right cliché to help you at the end of the day.

[jeffrey]

Now, bear with us. Your call is valuable to us. Whilst the green shoots of recovery appear, Rome burns.

[Sorrel]

Now, bear with us. Your call is valuable to us. Whilst the green shoots of recovery appear, Rome burns.

I hate the 'on hold' woman that tells me all the operators are busy but my call is very important to her.

Roughly translated ' our operators are making a cup of tea/chatting, why dont you bugger off, we're all trying to sit here and pretend not to hear the phone and see how long we can wait before we absolutely have to answer the phone or we get shouted at'

[mind the gap]

I hate the 'on hold' woman that tells me all the operators are busy but my call is very important to her.

Roughly translated ' our operators are making a cup of tea/chatting, why dont you bugger off, we're all trying to sit here and pretend not to hear the phone and see how long we can wait before we absolutely have to answer the phone or we get shouted at'


Too right. They are liars. My call is not going to be transferred to a customer service operator soon, it is clearly not valuable to them and they aren't sorry at all that I have had to wait. They couldn't give a tinker's cuss. My arm could drop off, or I could die of acute boredom, whilst waiting on the 'phone to them and they still wouldn't care.

In fact, they have only a marginally less dangerous effect on my blood-pressure than those pre-recorded advertisments for holidays, double glazing, loans, etc. which assume you are stupid or something. Does anyone listen to them past the first few seconds? I'm usually non-violent by nature, but....

[jeffrey]

Well done, you've won a lottery/holiday/makeover competition for which you never entered!

[mind the gap]

Well done, you've won a lottery/holiday/makeover competition for which you never entered!

Watch it, mush. Are you saying I need a makeover?

[jeffrey]

Watch it, mush. Are you saying I need a makeover?
Anyway, who invented this nonce word "makeover"? Why not "facelift"?

[mind the gap]

Anyway, who invented this nonce word "makeover"? Why not "facelift"?

Those grinning idiots on 'Homes Under the Hammer'?

Suspect it pre-dated that. It is nonsense, isn't it.

Suppose 'facelift' has connotations of 'live' surgery on TV, these days.

Why not just 'improvement'?