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tenant29
24-06-2008, 10:57 AM
The times newspaper (12 june 2008) carried a report on oil production and BP's chief executive forecasting 41 years oil useage left and 61 years gas useage left. Recently the nationaL dailies forecast average household heating/electic bills rising from £1000 to £1400 which is 40% rise.

Does this make solar heating cost effective ? Can anyone operating a solar water heater to confirm this ?

rajeshk4u
26-06-2008, 21:39 PM
The simple fact is that all new houses should be eco-friendly, why they are not building them right now is beyond me.

It is not a question of money, but a question of the the right thing to do!

Installing during build phase is a lot cheaper then retro fitting an existing property.....

jeffrey
27-06-2008, 08:47 AM
...especially with 'global warming' which leads - supposedly - to hot and dry weather: hence all this cold and wet weather.

iceman88
03-07-2008, 00:07 AM
Don't know much about this things, but hey, in about 50 to 60 years.
The supply of energy is going out. Conservation and real new sources
of power is badly needed as in now.

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jeffrey
03-07-2008, 09:49 AM
Don't know much about this things, but hey, in about 50 to 60 years.
The supply of energy is going out. Conservation and real new sources
of power is badly needed as in now.

Big Hardware Discounts (http://http://www.electronicsmaze.com) Home Study Promo Codes (http://homeschoolingcatalog.com)

(Sigh) Energy cannot be destroyed or created (except when world itself was created). Don't be fooled by the eco-fanatics.

Roger_Dimball
16-07-2008, 12:53 PM
I've always been interested in solar heating and it's place in society as I feel it could be used a lot more but I've never investiagted why it isn't.

jeffrey
16-07-2008, 13:02 PM
I've always been interested in solar heating and it's place in society as I feel it could be used a lot more but I've never investiagted why it isn't.

1. Ask the Solar Panel, presumably some so-called experts. They might enlighten you with their brilliance.
2. Because it's always cloudy in UK? "The sun always shines on TV", like the song says, but not here.

mind the gap
16-07-2008, 15:18 PM
Solar panels or photo-electric cells will produce electricity or hot water even on a cloudy day, but not very much (not compared with the Gobi desert for example) but will still take about 36 years to pay for themselves.

Ground source heat pumps are better, but to install one involves digging up all your floors.

Much better to turn your heating off altogether and wear a vest.

Any other cheap low-tech energy-saving tips from anyone's granny?

SherlockHome
24-07-2008, 07:27 AM
Solar panels or photo-electric cells will produce electricity or hot water even on a cloudy day, but not very much (not compared with the Gobi desert for example) but will still take about 36 years to pay for themselves.

Ground source heat pumps are better, but to install one involves digging up all your floors.

Much better to turn your heating off altogether and wear a vest.

Any other cheap low-tech energy-saving tips from anyone's granny?

I wasn´t aware that you could even buy vests these days - well not the thermal ones that i presume youare talking to. I dont have a granny and apart from all the obvious ones i can recommend a rather amusing book on climate change called Climate Change Begins at Home: (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Climate-Change-Begins-Home-Two-Way/dp/0230007546/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1216884775&sr=8-1)Life on the (http://buecher.hitmeister.de/climate-change-begins-at-home-2246877/) Two-Way Street of Global Warming (http://www.hitmeister.de/) - i would gove my own comical synopsis of the book but instead read a review (http://www.popularscience.co.uk/reviews/rev206.htm) written some someone much more articulate!

Pelican eats pigeon
24-07-2008, 11:21 AM
Ever since I saw a documentary on some experimental solar thermochemical power plants, I've been holding out a bit of hope that something would come of one of these. Seems like they're not very good candidates for funding, since we don't here much about them in the press.

it's a bit silly, cause they've built decent prototypes on both small and large scales, and the efficiency is said to be rather good.

mye01
02-08-2008, 15:48 PM
i hope to have solar panels in my home in the next years to come..as of now i could not afford it yet, i am starting though with a solar charger, now i dont have to plug my cellphone charger..gives me a really good saving!!:)