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Rob10
13-05-2008, 08:24 AM
I am buying a new build home which will be ready next month, but have been told by the developer that a HIP is not required for it as it will have NHBC. Is this correct?

jeffrey
13-05-2008, 08:53 AM
I am buying a new build home which will be ready next month, but have been told by the developer that a HIP is not required for it as it will have NHBC. Is this correct?

No, NHBC is a protection for P in case building work defects are not rectified by builder.
HIPS is an all-properties imposition (new houses as well as old) and has no overlap with NHBC.

Rob10
13-05-2008, 09:09 AM
Thank you.

Now for a chat with the grumpy sales lady who was adamant that the property wouldn't need one, and that they wouldn't be providing one.

Jane Needham
13-05-2008, 09:13 AM
Hi Rob
All new houses require a HIP.
The only difference is that a house built to pre 2006 building regulations will have an EPC(Energy Performance Certificate based on RdSAP in it, whilst a house built to 2006 Building regulations may have a PEA(predicted energy assessment) until it is complete, and then the EPC will be by a different method known as SAP. The EPC will still look the same and have the same info in it. A house built to 2006 Regs may also have a PEA.

RdSAP and SAP are just different methods of getting to same end result, and are just different software procedures into which data about the house is input.

The NHBC guarantee is for the building of the house - ie any defects should be remedied by the builder.

The minimum the builder is reuired to supply you with to comply with HIP legislation is:
Index
Sale Statement
Evidence of Title
EPC(or PEA until property complete)
Water and drainage Searches
Local searches including planning and local land charges

Hope this answers your questions

Jane Needham
To the best of my knowledge the information I supply is accurate but I do not accept liability except for paying clients You always advised to take professional advice before acting.

Poppy
13-05-2008, 09:18 AM
Out of interest, Is the developer an individual or a large (famous) company who should know better?

Rob10
13-05-2008, 09:29 AM
Thank you, yes that does help.

And yes, they are a large developer who should know better!

jeffrey
13-05-2008, 09:37 AM
Thank you, yes that does help.

And yes, they are a large developer who should know better!

Perhaps:
a. the company does know; but
b. its grumpy saleswoman does not.

Rob10
13-05-2008, 09:48 AM
Perhaps:
a. the company does know; but
b. its grumpy saleswoman does not.
I am sure this will be the case. Saleswoman should know though.

DEA
13-05-2008, 14:43 PM
NHBC do provide HIPs for new build so maybe this is where she is getting confused.

Rob10
19-05-2008, 12:00 PM
I have been back to the developer, who are still insisting that the property does not require a HIP. I was informed that this was to do with the property having been build to the new 2006 Building Regulations, and also, that it was marketed before 6 April this year.

Very confused.

jeffrey
19-05-2008, 12:06 PM
I have been back to the developer, who are still insisting that the property does not require a HIP. I was informed that this was to do with the property having been build to the new 2006 Building Regulations, and also, that it was marketed before 6 April this year.

Very confused.

The latter point is significant, but start date for HIPS depends on how many bedrooms there are.

Rob10
19-05-2008, 12:11 PM
The latter point is significant, but start date for HIPS depends on how many bedrooms there are.

There are 2 bedrooms

jeffrey
21-05-2008, 13:37 PM
I understand that, from 14 December 2007, every sale (no matter how few bedroms in house) is within scheme EXCEPT a property:
a. then already on the open market; or
b. never on the open market; or
c. a let property.

So your grumpy saleslady is right only if it was already for sale before 141207 (not just 060408, to which your post #10 refers).